Incel - A member of an online community of men who define themselves as unable to get a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one. Discussions in the incel community are often characterized by resentment and hatred, misogyny, misantrophy, self-pity and self-loathing, racism, a sense of entitlement to sex, and the endorsement of violence against women and sexually active people.
I've done a social network analysis of Peterson's YT channel in uni to get somewhat of a quantitative answer to a similar question: how linked is JP to the alt-right? It turned out that there are plenty of questionable channels referencing Peterson's, but no references from his to theirs. They engage with him but he doesn't engage with them.
It's like the alt-right (and presumably also incel) scene has accepted him as an intellectual vanguard, ascribing their skewed ideas to him, although he never articulated them. Whether or not he consciously benefits from this popularity is another question.
I think JP just gives very classical father figure vibes and guidance to a lot of young men with shaky ideas about the world from a lack of apropriate nurture and individuation. A small but radical subset of that group are incels. Because we humans fall for for our own cognitive biases, it's easy to take them as a pars-pro-toto and reduce JP to an incel hero. It's an easy trick and since he is so eager to go against mainstream bullshit opinions, it's popular to frame him so. I think that's an unfair assessment though, and one that seriously tries to sabotage public discourse.
I know a guy who grew up with two moms. He got really deep into JP content at some point because it filled exactly that lack of fatherly upbringing. It didn't turn him into a woman-hating shitposter, quite the opposite. He's the sweetest guy.
Jordan Peterson is for sure not a hero to the incels. He is one of the very few public figures who has the courage to speak up and not follow the mainstream. I've never observed any disrespectful behaviour towards women in his talks.
Nowadays people get insulted by everything, might as well give them a reason to, if this is something you believe in. I like to say - you have the right to get insulted, I have the right to not give a fck.
In listening to mr peterson himself,not those who merely comment on his work, I can only hope that my good looking, whip smart 24 yo son, articulate, educated, compassionate, talented and funny....who has never had a girlfriend.. is listening too. Yes I agree, mr peterson.... my son is doing something wrong. In that equation HE is the common denominator.
For a Woman with 2 failed Marriages and now dating Harry Styles while raising 2 Kids that aren't even His, Olivia Wilde can go fuck Herself.
She like all Women have no Business and Right to tell Men how Men should be and to criticize Jordan B. Peterson or any Man who devote Their life to help other flawed Men who seek to become better People with Her Toxic, damaging, flawed, Misandering, racial marginalizing and out ridiculous narrow minded Arguments with no real world Evidence.
Like all paid Actresses from Hollywood all Their verbal vomit is recycled Radical Feminism Propaganda disguised as Posturing in fighting for Women's rights who also argues it's better to slave for Their Bosses at Work than to be a 'weak' 'defenseless' 'unintelligent' Home Maker raising Kids criticizing Women for choosing Motherhood that actually makes them unique and Special.
This Propaganda itself has caused the Poor middle aged Women who want to embrace Motherhood after buying into that very radical feminist Crap but can't find a Guy to settle down will because Their standards will never match an all round Healthy Man, maybe a Toy Boy like Harry Styles, but even that hardly ever lasts much like all of Olivia Wilde's relationships.
Her expertise lie in the Movie industry and not in Clinical Psychology like Jordan, so She can stick to Her Shitty Movie Scripts and Acting and not real World Human Problems.
I've done a social network analysis of Peterson's YT channel in uni to get somewhat of a quantitative answer to a similar question: how linked is JP to the alt-right? It turned out that there are plenty of questionable channels referencing Peterson's, but no references from his to theirs. They engage with him but he doesn't engage with them.
It's like the alt-right (and presumably also incel) scene has accepted him as an intellectual vanguard, ascribing their skewed ideas to him, although he never articulated them. Whether or not he consciously benefits from this popularity is another question.
I think JP just gives very classical father figure vibes and guidance to a lot of young men with shaky ideas about the world from a lack of apropriate nurture and individuation. A small but radical subset of that group are incels. Because we humans fall for for our own cognitive biases, it's easy to take them as a pars-pro-toto and reduce JP to an incel hero. It's an easy trick and since he is so eager to go against mainstream bullshit opinions, it's popular to frame him so. I think that's an unfair assessment though, and one that seriously tries to sabotage public discourse.
I know a guy who grew up with two moms. He got really deep into JP content at some point because it filled exactly that lack of fatherly upbringing. It didn't turn him into a woman-hating shitposter, quite the opposite. He's the sweetest guy.
Jordan Peterson is for sure not a hero to the incels. He is one of the very few public figures who has the courage to speak up and not follow the mainstream. I've never observed any disrespectful behaviour towards women in his talks.
Nowadays people get insulted by everything, might as well give them a reason to, if this is something you believe in. I like to say - you have the right to get insulted, I have the right to not give a fck.
In listening to mr peterson himself,not those who merely comment on his work, I can only hope that my good looking, whip smart 24 yo son, articulate, educated, compassionate, talented and funny....who has never had a girlfriend.. is listening too. Yes I agree, mr peterson.... my son is doing something wrong. In that equation HE is the common denominator.
For a Woman with 2 failed Marriages and now dating Harry Styles while raising 2 Kids that aren't even His, Olivia Wilde can go fuck Herself.
She like all Women have no Business and Right to tell Men how Men should be and to criticize Jordan B. Peterson or any Man who devote Their life to help other flawed Men who seek to become better People with Her Toxic, damaging, flawed, Misandering, racial marginalizing and out ridiculous narrow minded Arguments with no real world Evidence.
Like all paid Actresses from Hollywood all Their verbal vomit is recycled Radical Feminism Propaganda disguised as Posturing in fighting for Women's rights who also argues it's better to slave for Their Bosses at Work than to be a 'weak' 'defenseless' 'unintelligent' Home Maker raising Kids criticizing Women for choosing Motherhood that actually makes them unique and Special.
This Propaganda itself has caused the Poor middle aged Women who want to embrace Motherhood after buying into that very radical feminist Crap but can't find a Guy to settle down will because Their standards will never match an all round Healthy Man, maybe a Toy Boy like Harry Styles, but even that hardly ever lasts much like all of Olivia Wilde's relationships.
Her expertise lie in the Movie industry and not in Clinical Psychology like Jordan, so She can stick to Her Shitty Movie Scripts and Acting and not real World Human Problems.